The fourth episode of Warpod's special series ‘Reckoning with 9/11’ looks at two countries that became important battlegrounds in the global war on terror: Yemen and Somalia. To discuss Yemen, Larry Attree and Delina Goxho are joined by Iona Craig, an investigative journalist focused on Yemen and a winner of the Orwell prize for journalism, and Awfa Alnami, Saferworld’s Yemen Country Manager.

Our hosts then discuss the conflict in Somalia with Mary Harper, BBC Africa editor and author of a major book on Al Shabaab titled ‘Everything You Have Told Me Is True’, and Dr. Afyare Abdi Elmi, executive director of the Heritage Institute for Policy Studies in Mogadishu and author of ‘Understanding the Somalia Conflagration’.

This special Warpod series ‘Reckoning with 9/11’ is created by Saferworld with support from Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, and produced by the Podcast Company.

Please note the views and opinions expressed during the podcast are those of the contributors featured. They are not necessarily the views or opinions of Saferworld.

Further reflections from guests and co-hosts on the consequences of 9/11 and where we go from here are available at Just Security.

Listen to previous Warpod episodes here.